There is a lot of empirical and theoretical information on in this email.
Inquiry Questions
Name
Notes
DAF-25
What is your deepest value in life, which includes all of your other values?
I believe this question’s sentiment rests heavily on “deeper”? for example more General/Generic, most Motivating, most Meaningful, ??? Seems like many possible ways of one’s frame on “deepest” and this could strongly flavor how one considers the question. Most inclusive value. From the deepest point of view.
What is your personal relationship with truth, which is to say, what does truth mean for you practically?
Truth as [Interaction with] (Situational, Operational, Empirical) Actuality. Pragmatic Scientific Realism w.r.t. “Minute Particulars” (how it is [for how it is {that/which} it is) including those of generalities/abstractions.
What is a question that you don't know the answer to, but wish to investigate, so as to discover the answer?
Many across personal, organizational, scientific, artistic scales..... To focus for the year initially;
: How can / apply to different sorts of (#)?
Personal research projects:
@1/7/2025
How are you investigating that or how would you like to?
How indeed!
And what commitments, timewise, would you make to work on your questions, and also, to think about the big picture in life?
Orientation of the attentional regimes, towards personal/multiscale Pareto frontiers, in 2025, for seeing the forest and/for/within the tree(s).
Would we devote our best energies to such contemplations?
Do we wish to live, behave, walk towards a universal culture that we share with all in all circumstances?
Do we wish to experience our own lives as persons-in-general, doing what any good person would do in our circumstances, or as persons-in-particular, attached to what makes us distinct and special?
Do we wish to think that we personally are the pinnacle, the end-all and be-all, or do we hope that there may be something greater that transcends us?
Do we allow the world to do its own thing or do we aspire to impact it? and its people? its beings?
Do we have any way to make sense of all of this? I think these are personal questions that we answer with for ourselves, or rather, that we ever grapple with, as much as we live.
What is ?
What's the point of truth?
What is our ?
How can we model the dynamics of our inner life?
What should a model serve for?
Are we serving our stomachs? or who?
What are the enabling conditions for symbolic coherence?
What bottom-up data would be meaningful for us to learn from?
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Do we wish to live, behave, walk towards a universal culture that we share with all in all circumstances? Do we wish to experience our own lives as persons-in-general, doing what any good person would do in our circumstances, or as persons-in-particular, attached to what makes us distinct and special? Do we wish to think that we personally are the pinnacle, the end-all and be-all, or do we hope that there may be something greater that transcends us? Do we allow the world to do its own thing or do we aspire to impact it? and its people? its beings? Do we have any way to make sense of all of this? I think these are personal questions that we answer with for ourselves, or rather, that we ever grapple with, as much as we live.
Would we devote our best energies to such contemplations? I think this is the key step in our culture.
When we work on our investigations, we participate in our culture, and when we talk or write about them - when we focus not on the findings but on the process - then we share and strengthen our culture. When we listen to each other, show interest and give encouragement, and discover connections with our own interests, then we likewise participate.
Art! Work! Flow! = Culture
True today, then in future? “Then” it will have also been true it was true at the past moment.
Relative, different person’s/perspective’s truths. It is true that it is this way.
Religion. Democracy.
Here is a ready-made truth (from Text, Oral, In-Group, Tradition) as Conclusion, and Epistemology as Conclusion.
Socratic methods
as the practicality of knowledge? or the usefulnees of knowledge?
Truth is the utility of knowledge but what more...?
it seems from what you are saying that if knowledge is useful, then it is true. and if there is a truth, then it is useful knowledge
Belief reconciliation. Exploring each other’s state spaces without pre-emptive closure.
Truth as reconciliation of belief?
The prior is truly the prior, the observation is truly the observation, and the reconciliation/convergence is truly what it is. And?
How can chatting be related to truth? If/As everything said is true (in what it is).
What would make something not true?
What (truly) happens — it is true that it happens.
Within a symbolic system there can be strong or compatible Validity (internal consistent).
Leveraging symbolic communication for externla
Truth as contextual judgment, a determination about a referent within a context.
Historical contingency.
Commitment to (good, human, peaceful) Life.
cognitive science, psychology, child development, , Political theory.
Why have the concept of at all?
Could a lie be helpful?
So what is the difference between truth and helpfulness?
Truth and Natural? Lie and Unnatural? (What is in this category?)
What does True mean/do (as opposed to?) Invalid/Malformed? Not useful? Non-Existent (though even concepts are existent).
Care.
Actual reality. The complement to what is not (in situation where counter-factuals also have a cognitive existence).

Might want to bring in / Dictionary.
Synergetics Namespaces
Synergetics IVM
Struppi
Orthogonal XYZ
Notes
Tetrahedra
Foureyes
Tetrahedra
Open
Jitterbug
Open
..
Open
Open
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Initial Hypotheses/

If something is more complex than a table, can a table structure the ? // What is the relation of “table” with ? ?
Table: 2x2 minimum —
@Foureyes
“minimum 4” in system-ness.
There are the special “less than 2x2 tables”, like the Complex Numbers (dyadic/2-arity) and the Singular/Scalar/Unitary numbers ”counting Numbers”. 1, 2, 4 — Then 2x4=8 is the Interactional reset of the 2 systems (Agent-Niche, Unity is Plural and at Minimum 2) yields an interactionalist’s “ “Two-As-One” as one”. How do we model nesting, interaction, perspectival interaction/swapping → Predictive Processing as “Frame Differencing” as two eyes open.
Unitary or Closed system (
@Foureyes
, 4 as 1). Minimal interaction of Two Systems (interacting Tet’s [stabilizing Cube?] → 8 as 1 (higher dialectic unity) // 8 as 0 (negation/complementational/contradiction) // 8 as 2 (two interaction elements).
Tet as four-fold intersectional happening (4 vertexes as Events defining 4D space). 8-ness as Two Tets-Cube-stabilizing clumping into one → Higher order nested/compression pole-climbing (2-as-1).
All of this can continue towards the , Numerological. 1st person “phenomenology-like”
Forces for this (”Two 4-as-1’s” as one) unified Operationally/Empirically for like:
Thermal vibration / Jitterbug / Enthalpy (?)
Radiation & Gravity (center of gravity)
Reciprocity / Marriage of Heaven & Hell.
Tensegrity / Structural / Entropy
Measure theoretic / Statistical properties (e.g. two bodies connected with rigid or flexible rod (push/compression) or rope (pull/tension).
Input/Output? Informational identifiability / Compression / Coarse graining / ....
[Nested/Interactional] of two Interacting Logical - Anti-Logical —
Truth in/as/from/of Interaction of Logics/Perspectives/Systems.
For every step towards Truth/Light a “harder collision” AS MEASURED/MODELED on axis there is “negative” counter step (gradients cut both ways), as with Solenoidal component (the chirality turns / isocontour flows both ways
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How does William Blake's concept of Negation and Contradictions relate to Paraconsistent and Modal logic?
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How can we use , , ... in our Stigmergy and Synchronous organization of multiscale inquiry?
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DAF projects example for projects (M1 at 1 sentence and paragraph/list level, M2, M3 as Table “all at once” Modes/Methods).
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Becoming sharable.
Why engaging in the epistemic endeavor at all?
Staying updated with number and depth of .

This type of deliberateness, this application of the third mind - Consciousness - is what I want us to contribute at Math 4 Wisdom, as much as we can, including at this discussion group. Generally, it means, sharing our thought process, which may mean quieting our snappy answer First Minds and snappy question Second Minds. It means sharing our thinking out loud about our ongoing investigations, noting where we are "taking a stand", where we are "following through", where we are "reflecting". We can start at any of these but then with each further step our cognizance should grow. So, for example, Kirby, if you share with us your "intellectual activity", then you are on first base, in baseball terms. But when you add your personal reflection regarding that, now you are on second base. Then further, if you can from there take a new stand (which may or may not be much different than before), then you are on third base. Finally, if you can show us your "intellectual activity 2.0", then we have batted you in, and our team scores a point! Or you can simply hit a home run. But if we don't make it all the way around, then in terms of the baseball game, there is nothing gained by making it to first or second or third base. I mean to say, the score is unchanged.
It means sharing our thinking out loud about our ongoing investigations, noting where we are "taking a stand", where we are "following through", where we are "reflecting".
For me this helped understand better, another perspective on the fractal nature of inquiry.
From and I was familiar with the 4-fold particular partition (nested Markov Blankets, Renormalization Group operations) and how that helped us view complex systems from the outside (e.g. making a multiscale causal map of a system).
Then this Basebase metaphor provides a view from the inside (batter’s eye view) to complement other kinds of cognitive cycles like OODA. Rather than merely operationalizing (viewing from the outside) the cognitive process (like say an OODA or TOTE), I think ( + + ) provides a vital co-nested inner view.
This inner threesome is nested in sub-inquires (see email, the inner baserunning) as processed/selected operationally (activity as experienced from the inside).
Whereas the outer foursome is nested in sub-systems, as modeled systemically (inoperativity as mapped from the outside).
As an empirical researcher I am familiar with the “local truth” concept, e.g. that of experimentation and observation.
Then towards the upper registers — could there be the possibility that on the higher end, like above the level of interests in
, , , etc., there could be higher levels of coherent inquiry? How are these upper syntheses of inquiry related to Truth?
How (do we relate with those inquiries (which relate to Truth?)?)?
Considering the “view from the inside” of inquiries of our own, as well as our external view on others.
For example I am learning English and Russian deeper. I am learning about the case system in Russian and seeking to understand Case from view from the outside ( accounting, and ), as well as from the inside.
Clearly language and thought are deeper than any single spoken language. Hence the question would be, for the thinking/process that is deeper than this, does that deepness bottom out in a specific plurality? Or in a type of singularity/monad (is that Truth?)?
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More importantly, I am interested to think how we wish to work as investigators, individually and collectively. We are thinking about the big picture and we are desigining our investigations. Where is that leading us? This can help us understand what opportunities are meaningful to pursue, how should we approach them, and what opportunities we can create for ourselves.
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