I began golf the same way many begin. It looked easy enough so I grabbed some clubs and went at it. The first and only points of wisdom were: 1) Keep your head down and 2) Don’t swing so hard! Well… first off, I love to swing hard. That is why I play! Secondly, if I keep my head down then how do I know where the ball went? 😀 Truthfully, both points are at some level valid but in my opinion become significant in the context of good mechanics. We will get into that later.
I have entertained many golf instructions from notable golfing pros like Ben Hogan and Johnny Miller to lesser known pros like Bobby Clampett. Some instruction has included notable golf instructors. Common among most of these methods was an opinionated golfer’s perspective. It is usually about what has worked for them. Which is fine but I usually ran into a roadblock. I am not them! For example, Jack Nicklaas claimed that he could make multiple in-swing adjustments. I think he said 6. Six?!?! I can’t make any in-swing adjustments let alone 6!
I have become a student of the golf swing. While I could go get some lessons and be told I need to do this or to do that. I want to know why they are telling me to do this or to do that. I want to figure this swing thing out.
Now, most of the people I golf with enjoy 9 to 18 holes every week or so and enjoy it even more if they can string together a sequence of hits with the same ball. Most golfers are not as obsessed with their scorecard as they are with their lost ball count. So most don’t want to know what I want to know. What follows is my journey to today.
My Early Years
My first recollection of golf was with my 4th grade buddy whose dad was the golf pro at our city golf course. We both struggled so much that it became an exercise in expressing our frustration as 4th graders do.
From 4th grade through high school, golf didn’t just take a back seat to my other sporting ventures, it was in the trunk. When my family moved to a home that was situated next to the 10th hole of a lake course, everything changed. My golfing journey officially began.
Like most, I tried to latch on to the common themes out there: “Keep your head down.” and “Don’t swing so hard.” With these “precious” nuggets as my guide, if my game improved it was marginal. My results were such that I was grateful when my dad purchased the top of the line ball retriever. I survived on retrieving reachable balls from the water as my ball often found the center of the water hazard.
Ben Hogan
Thankfully, while attending BYU, I enrolled in Golf 101 as part of my PE requirement. The text for this class was Ben Hogan’s “The Modern Fundamentals of Golf”. This book was serious. Now, I was getting serious. Our class instructor, did his best to share with us the keys to his swing and suggested adjustments as he saw it. I remember him telling me, “Don’t let your right knee move backwards on the backswing.” Tips, that I relied on with some success for many years. With that class as my starting point. I must have spent 20 years trying to swing like Hogan. I even enjoyed some success.
This was my first exposure to the proper grip and where to put your feet. It also helped me to think of sitting on a stool to get some good posture into my setup.
However, as I eventually learned while doing some research, I started experiencing what Hogan experienced, and which he does not mention in his book: The dreaded Army golf: PULL it hard left, then PUSH it hard right. It seemed the more I put into golfing his way, the more I struggled to keep the ball in the fairway. There has got to be a better way!
Johnny Miller
At some point, I picked up a DVD of Johnny Miller teaching a movie star how to swing. He introduced the concept of “Keeping your C” - where your toes are at the bottom of the C and your head is at the top of the C. Miller was truly a natural. He is so gifted and golfing athletic.
I sometimes wonder if golfing pros struggle to articulate everything that they do because most of it is natural. I think for some of them they learned to do it just by their amazing ability to figure it out. I also think golfers arrive upon thoughts and mental pictures that work for them. That does not mean it will work for me.
To that point Miller recently gave an interview at the 2023 US Open. He summarize 3 truths he discovered about his swing. These were not taught him. He discovered them! Amazing! They are:
A square the clubface at impact. In his day impact was unknowable. He however used to practice starting at the top of his backswing and stopping at impact. Rehearsing his body as to what square impact felt like.
A consistent low point. He also practiced, scuffing the grass at the exact same place in his swing. He made his low point predictable.
Lastly, swing through the ball at the target.
Again, in his day there was no such thing as launch monitors that analyzed impact, club path or angle of attack. But he discovered all of them and figured out how to make them all predictable in his swing.
Rotary Swing
Later on I invested in online videos and instructional programs that left me still wanting basic instruction that worked for everyone. However, eventually, I found Rotary Swing.
As I started to experience a strain here and a pain there, I noted how many major winners on the PGA tour had to go under the knife to repair what their swing broke - knees, hips and spines. In addition to my search for truth I also wanted something that wouldn’t land me on the operating table. While online, I happened upon the Rotary Swing. The founder of this technique knows his physiology. He speaks in terms of neutral joint positions and anatomically safe positions. I also found their instruction compelling because it was based on physiology and physics, not based on opinion or on being extremely talented. As a computer engineer of 40+ years, these analytics spoke to me.
It was refreshing to have described the “why” of the “do this”. Hogan and others, for me was only about “do this”. I found myself spending years trying mimic the photos. He always left me wanting to know why? With Rotary Swing (RS), while there is the element of mimic this. There was also, this is why. For example: you want to be joint neutral because it will protect your joint from harm. For me when things make sense then they are easier to learn.
Like many things, as we learn more we make adjustments. Rotary Swing has evolved as have my swing thoughts. As I have experienced this evolution, my journey has gone through different concepts and drills that I have found value in. I am going to pull out the drills and golf swing principles into their own sub-documents and reference them from within this narration.
At the time of this writing, much of Rotary Swing is free. However, I wanted to know all about Rotary Swing and for that knowledge I had to pay a subscription fee that included periodic swing analysis.
To facilitate different desires for improvement. In each sub-section I am borrowing from college course work designations of: 101, 201, 301…etc. Some golfers want to spend as little time as possible to improve just enough to make their occasional play go better. If this is your mindset then the 101 drills are for you. Others may benefit from the more advanced concepts of 201, 301 and so forth.
Through my Golfing Journey, I have come to appreciate the most important factor in a golf swing. What some call the moment of truth or ball contact. In the early years of the PGA Tour, it seemed nobody had similar swing motions. It was a montage of creative pros who enjoyed golf course success with their creativity. Think Jim Furyk times 50. They all had their own peculiarities. But they all found a way to pure ball contact - the moment of truth.
, was my first experience with pure ball contact, also known as ball compression or what I like to think of as the moment of truth.
The Glutes
The next important element is to train the lower body. All too often we hit the “big” ball (the earth) before we hit the “little” ball (golf ball). Per the other basics learned to this point, the apex of the swing is directly below the lead shoulder (for right handers that would be the left shoulder). So the physics suggests that the bottom of the swing is going to be directly below the left shoulder. In order to hit the little ball before the big ball, we need to advance the apex or left shoulder just in front of the golf ball because we want to hit the ball before the turf.
. I have learned that a predictable plane is key to consistency.
Gladstan
I have spent much of my journey not keeping score. My game was such that keeping score was aggravating and demoralizing: par, par, bogey, par, bogey, birdie, quad-bogey, quad-bogey, triple-bogey… sound familiar?
For years, my local course, Gladstan has benefited from obscurity. That obscurity afforded me with playing whenever I wanted to play. I could just walk in and walk on. I also found myself golfing alone a lot, so naturally, I started keeping score more religiously. For years, I found that ignoring the bad holes helped end the round on a positive note. My scores consisted of how many pars, birdies and bogeys and I ignored the rest.
In the summer of COVID 19, 2020, my golfing world was turned upside down. Salt Lake County and most of Utah County shut down. The golfers went looking for alternatives. And they found Gladstan. My days of walking in and walking on were over. Add to that their new restriction of not allowing singles to book tee times, my golfing world was effectively shut down.
I had to figure out an alternative. I needed my therapy!
Hitting Bay
I found my first alternative in the form of a hitting pad with foam balls in my garage. That wasn’t real enough for me so I bought a net. Yes! I was hitting with real golf balls now! But where was the ball going? Next, I was pleased to find the world of the golf ball flight monitors had some new low-cost entries. Instead of the Track Man $20k-$50k option only, there were low price options. I settled on Mevo. My first model was a dream. It showed the ball flight and how far it went. Perfect! But over time I found myself wanting to know if it was going left or right? Thankfully, they had a more expensive option to do that. It was more than I wanted to spend but I NEEDED it! So I got the Mevo+ (Garmin has since released a cheaper competitor). This was a game changer. Not only could I see the ball flight in all directions on my phone. I could even play simulated courses through their E6 app. Who needs Gladstan? Over time I found myself trying to improve my hitting bay experience with better hitting pads and better nets. How about a projector? And a TV monitor? Why not a hitting bay screen? Eventually, my hitting bay was complete. I was hitting the ball more than I ever had before - almost daily. Again, this was a game changer!
Now that I was practicing more than ever before, I decided to make an equipment change. After a visit to Club Champion, my excuses were now at a minimum. With fitted clubs, it was now all about my swing.
Eventually, I was enjoying some success with Rotary Swing and my new clubs and seeing some positive results. As the COVID-19 subsided a bit, Gladstan opened up a bit more and I was eventually able to get on the course again. With all the practice in my hitting bay I found that my scoring was improving. Their were fewer holes to ignore and I saw my score getting closer to par. Could I actually shoot par?
Rotary Swing was still maturing and consisted of a bunch of videos, maybe 100, that dealt with all kinds of issues, faults and fixes. I tried to focus on the basics. But what were the basics? I couldn’t assimilate everything?
My main swing thoughts at this point were: Straight Arms, shifting weight via Right Glut to Left Glut, and AXIOM or Clockwise rotation at the top. I also discovered lag. Initially, it was primarily only in my low irons but the whole concept added yardage to my irons and made “an effortless swing” real.
White tees
The summer of 2022 was monumental for my golfing journey. I scored the lowest 9 hole rounds of my life from the white tees. I was 60 years old and playing the best golf of my life.
With that kind of progress in hand, I made an 18 hole goal at Gladstan. It is important to note that while the front nine here is no cake-walk, the back nine easily exposes any inconsistencies in your game. It repeatedly exposed my inconsistencies, resulting in frustrating mid-80 scores. This is not the kind of course that gives up a handful of birdies to help overcome some bad holes. When I scored my 36’s, it was not because of a run of birdies. It was because I hit the fairways and greens and made some long putts. I was at some level consistent but the back nine proved impossible to maintain consistency. The tolerances are tighter on the back nine and my game was repeatedly exposed. My game was just too inconsistent.
I suspect some of this inconsistency came from the new found lag and new AXIOM drill. The golf swing is a living thing. It morphs overtime and I found mine morph into a swing resembling Jim Furyk. It felt awesome, in that I was doing things and feeling things I had never felt before. I was hitting the ball effortlessly with lag and finally on an “in to out” swing path. However, eventually these things got so pronounced that like I just mentioned, the back nine was exposing the inconsistencies that came with these newly discovered concepts. Who knew that you could have too much lag or that the swing path can be too far from the inside? I needed more consistency and control.
So, in the winter of 2022-2023 I spent hours and hours in my hitting bay, attempting to breakdown everything in my swing. How can I be more consistent? Rotary Swing had just released a training module called the “C4 Ball striking Mastery Program”. It took me through a 4 phase process. Each phase included about 100 swings a day for about 10-20 days. I was hitting the ball a bunch. The drills were similar to what I had done before but different.
I recommend their web-site for this program. I benefited from the program.
Blue Tees
In the spring of 2023 I started off with tremendous ambition. I played in a UGA event at Gladstan. We started on the back nine and I was almost par when the wind caught a fairway iron, sending it over the green into OB. I never got my mojo back and ended up cheering on my golf cart partner.
My game steadily improved through July until I blistered Sleepy Ridge. I was only a few over par after 18. However, I couldn’t translate that form to Gladsan to the blue tees. Eventually, I lost my driver. I think it was because I was frustrated that I was hitting it so high on the club face, I decided to adjust my swing.
Adjusted, I did and I started hitting a two-way miss! Anxiety was building as the good weather was coming to a close and I am not getting any younger. I know I was pressing. It seemed like my game was spiraling out of control. In September, I played the worst round of the year - only one par. It had been a rough month of golf. I seem to be declining. Golf is funny that way.
I have since decided, that I need to again re-assess my reason for playing. If it is to be amazing. To expect amazing results then I should just stop because golf is not incremental. One good round is rarely followed by an even better round. The things that can be reliably sought for are: good exercise and beautiful scenery. So grow up dude! Enjoy what comes.
It took me a month to return to sound driver mechanics. Once I was back in the fairway off of the tee I was just barely missing my goal of par. Then on two separate days, I shot par on the front nine! I was sooo happy and relieved. I turned in my combined front nine 72 hole score on the USGA app and bumped my handicap down to 5. Realistically, this is probably as good as I will get and I am at peace with that.
The past few months, my goal has been to focus on process and get back to trusting my swing. I have a tendency to loose focus on my setup, pre shot drill and thought process. Which results in getting crazy mid-swing, getting handsey or quick. Today part of the pre-shot drill was the “left-leg drill”, Phase one with all my weight on my left foot while reciting the words, “Stay in the box. Trust your swing”. My backswing included: 1) pull with right lat to set the plane, 2) load the right glut (which encourages in the box, if I do AXIOM I can’t think about anything else), 3) good temp (don’t rush it), 4) one-leg drill (get to left side). I have a tendency to get so excited about an amazing result that I swing without any systematic thought process and get a varied result. Anyway, Patrick told me some time ago that a golf sports psychologist suggested players keep track of their process score as well as their golf score. I didn’t do that literally but in my head, I think I only missed it twice on two 9 irons. I did everything but #4 and hit them fat. Thankfully, on the last hole I did my process with my 9 and nuked it 10 yards beyond my number. It was frustrating to hit over the green but flushing it is always cool.
I focused on staying in the box with my driver. During the summer my tendency is to shoulder whip: pull a dead hook or whip a slice right (depending on my club face). I only missed three fairways all day - sand trap once, the first cut once and didn’t cover the woods on 10 (double). That is always a good sign. I parred 14 holes. I must have barely missed 2 chip-ins for birdie and maybe 2 putts for birdie. In the end I was just solid and hitting the ball better than ever. This performance was on a winter frozen course. The greens were inconsistent and tough to judge but I just trusted my process. In the end I scored a 77. No mulligans. It was in my estimation the best day of golf in my life. I have had better 9 hole performances but this was an 18 hole performance. It was a thrilling day.
I have learned the importance of determining:
A pre-swing drill that works. This can change over time so be flexible. Much of it depends on what you are working on.
What swing thoughts work. Pre-swing and in-swing. For me I can only handle a few thoughts if my tempo is right. If I get too quick I can’t really handle any thoughts.
Properly analyzing the result:
Did it go left because your face was open, or plane was off, or contact was on the toe…? This is hard because for me it has taken me thousands of swings to develop that sense.
If you don’t have thousands yet, simplify by analyzing what you felt.
Avoid overload and chasing the moving target. I can’t keep reading the constant stream of people’s swing thoughts and ideas, tricks or tips. Rotary Swing has it all! So I stopped reading things that don’t fit.
I have included a few advanced concept videos for those wanting to be stretched a bit. I also included some conclusion videos that discuss:
Why does it go left, right and center? (Club path, plane and club face)
Find your way, your thoughts, your drills. Be careful about too much information. Don’t subscribe to golf channel. Golf news streams thrive on, “The key to better ____”. They are all over the place and can lead to a never ending journey. Often that key is not something that should be taken literally because it is only what it feels like to them, or what works for them!
What I have learned.
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include my attempts at explaining and demonstrating all these concepts.
Jonathan Kim-Moss
Recently, I came upon some YouTube videos by Jonathan Kim-Moss. For the most part, they are consistent with Rotary Swing but add additional insights, feelings and positions that are important to him.
I appreciate the details he shares and have benefited from his instruction. Thankfully this just augmented my swing not completely reworked my swing. I have made a list of a few videos I found useful.
I like his concept of rolling the wrists and not flipping the wrists. Also, his description of limited roll followed by bending the left wrist so that club comes up towards the head. I have found these thoughts useful. “Limited” roll is a must and hard to do. Otherwise I get a hard pull.
I am finding for precision I need to be intentional about my club path. It needs to start back on the target line then down and through the target line for as long as possible. Flattening the left wrist during the backswing is also a must. I am slowly learning to flatten wrist with loose wrists. It was hard to adjust my wrists without tensing up and loosing all feelings of lag. Intentional, flat but loose wrists, backswing and downswing is helping with my precision.
Men’s League
For several months now I have participated in a weekly scramble event for the league here in KY. The nature of a scramble demands consistency under pressure.
Also, being over 60, I am asked to hit from the gold tees. There is an expectation that I can hit it further than the long hitters from the white tees. To that end, for about 2 months, I pursued increasing my length off of the tee. That proved to be a costly decision as I spent another month correcting bad habits that come with trying to over swing. Thankfully, I have returned to focusing on hitting it off of the center of the club-face with lag. If that is not long enough, then so be it. An extra 10 yards is not worth ruining my swing.
Now let’s get back to consistency and accuracy. In these events, the goal is an eagle or birdie putt. That means accuracy under pressure. I have found myself accurate from time to time but I want more consistent accuracy.
As I have enjoyed the feeling of effortless power that comes from loose wrists it has enlightened the notion of the “great hands” attribute of the great players. Because it feels to me like to keep the loose wrists and soft hands through impact, any adjusting, fade or draw or low or high ball flight, requires very subtle adjustments. I can see how this is described as having great hands.
Putt Consistency
Ball off of heel. Hit slightly up on ball.
Ground club head properly. Plenty of space.
1-2 count. Easy feeling tempo. Back on 1, down on 2.
Intentional club path. Focus on the target.
Use lats. More predictable length.
Swing Consistency
Loose wrists is key to lag and an effortless swing and flat left wrist results in consistent length and direction. This is becoming the most important element of consistency. I am having varying degrees of success with focusing on a flat left wrist at the top of the backswing. It is hard to stay loose and soft.
Elbows togetherhelps prevent the flying right elbow back and down. Getting weight to heels on follow through and pushing glutes back helps avoid getting stuck and Army golf. However, too far into heels is not good either - that tends to cause inconsistent ball contact. I am having better luck with getting my glutes back with weight favoring heels.
Spine angle and beginning backswing by Pulling with right lat sets the proper plane. Keeping spine angle through contact keeps the plane.
I am also trying to make room for arms. I have a tendency to stand up too much and get stuck. Getting stuck is army golf. However, again overdoing this move to make more room can cause problems. I am trying to focus on hinging more from hips at setup. Meaning, get more over the ball. That way I can pull down, “ring the bell tower bell”, with both arms. The right elbow stays inside and I feel like both arms are working together. When the right elbow flies out, chicken wing, it feels like they are separate entities. In the past the way to deal with this was to try to take the right side completely out of the swing. It feels better when they work together as one.
I have a tendency to rush things under pressure. Axiom encourages good tempo. The right glut left glut drill is alow useful. Also, a good bend in the left knee can prevent over swinging at the top. A full-turn is also a good help. Having more distance to travel on the post up to the left side can encourage a gradual acceleration from the top instead of a jerk move. Too little bend in knee is too easy to just snap left leg straight instead of posting into left side.
Intentional club path (create an intentional path on backswing and downswing). I also like Kim-Moss’ notion of hinging left wrist on follow through. This prevents the dreaded pull/hook follow through.It promotes a high follow through.
Play driver off of heel. Not too far forward or backward in stance.
Pre-swing drill
Proper Setup. Spine angle. Close elbows. Plenty of space.
Lock into the box - gluts and core. Center of club face.
Pull with back muscles to start swing. Low and slow. Set plane. Be precise. Not too high or too low. Club face stays open until right arm starts to bend.
At top of takeaway, focus on straight left arm and right elbow bent in .
Weight shift to left side - joint neutral. Bend that left knee on take away. Right knee at target. (Phase I)
Loose wrists lag. Effortless swing! (Phase III) (flat left wrist focus does not guarantee results and is increasingly difficult to stay loose in the wrists when I do this)
Shoulders cover ball during impact. Right shoulder dropped lower than the left shoulder. (Phase II)
Release club face - flat left wrist. Stay on target line as long as possible. Be intentional about path. Hinge left wrist up and over head (Phase II)
I saw this book recently. Out of curiosity I wanted to see how it conformed to Rotary Swing.
Setup
Spine angle/tilt of 5-10 degrees - club down buttons should touch inside of left knee. If done correctly the right hand should cover back of right knee. This is an interesting checkpoint.
Forward tilt of 40 degrees - at top of backswing - left hand should be able to cover right knee. He wants 20 degrees from hips and 20 degrees from shoulders. Rotary Swing is opposed to rolling shoulders. The spine needs to be upright to be in a joint neutral position to rotate around without cause of injury or pain. So I am against 40. 20 degrees only from hips works.
Weight - “If you were to rock up on the balls of your feet and then set your heels down, that should be where your weight settles. In this “ready” position, your body has good balance and is capable of moving in any direction. When you set up, you should be able to lift both heels off the ground and set them down; you shouldn’t be able to lift your toes up. Be careful not to tilt too far forward, however, as this puts more weight over your toes and throws your swing off-balance.”
Aiming
This was transformative!
Parallel left
Same mechanics no adjustment to club path
Feet parallel to target line 30 yards left of target. (30 yards does not work for me)
Club face on target line
Draw
Club path just right of target line.
Square club face at impact (because the face is pointed at target, it will be a bit closed at impact on the club path, causing a small draw)
Fade
Club path just left of target line
Hold club face open through contact.
Backswing
He has some good Wall drills to help orient your body to the odd feelings of a swing.
Touch hands on wall
Press hips on wall
Extend hips and touch wall
Turn inside the wall
Takeaways:
You need a stock shot! Because of spine tilt it should be a draw.
“Ben Hogan. He once said that “to be an accomplished fader of the ball, one must first know how to draw the ball.” If I had to speculate why he said that, it’s because there’s only one shot in golf you can’t hit with a bad swing (provided you have proper aim), and that’s a ball that starts to the right and draws back to your target. If you can hit a draw, you can produce every type of shot in golf simply by changing your setup; you never have to make a different type of swing.”
Must learn to draw it first. Sideways tilt is key to stock draw.
“The side tilt also sets up the correct sequencing on the downswing. If your shoulders are level and your spine angle straight up and down, then your right shoulder will work out toward the target line, causing the club to swing over the top. If, however, your side tilt is in place at the top of your backswing, then your right shoulder moves down in the transition, driving your hands toward the ball and your right elbow forward.”
Spine tilts determine plane and proper swing mechanics. Tilt forward 40 degrees. Tilt sideways 5-10 degrees.
Each swing needs to have a shape - even if it turns out to be straight you should try to be working the ball.
The aiming notion has been huge. I am able to finally draw the ball again. Fading is doable by just holding off the club face. Same in-to-out club path for both results.
Conclusion
Aside from the useful takeaways just mentioned, the rest of this book while all true is quite complicated and maybe only useful to people that have the time and ability to train their body to function like a robot. The checklists are useful for the swing analyst but it is just too much for me.
I also read “The Plane Truth for Golfers”. I have been interested in better understanding the difference between a single plane and two plane swing. I was ultimately disappointed by the content. It seems two plane swing golfers stand more upright and have to time their shift into the “hitting” plane. Their “hitting” plane is the single plane. More reason for me to focus on a single plane swing.
I also read “The A Swing”. This has many well done illustrations. It supports many of the same concepts that I have adopted but he for example believes the swing starts with the arms. Which is a no-no in Rotary Swing and many other swing theories. I guess this just underscores the need to find a theory that works for you. One that makes sense to your brain and works with your physiology. In the end the thoughts that we have in the backswing and downswing that work are most important. If we have success and are pain free, then go fort it!
I am going to stick with Rotary Swing as my base and I am going to work on a draw as my stock shot. My alignment also needs some improvement.
Revisiting Rotary Swing
I decided to revisit some of the Rotary Swing videos because I was experiencing pain.
I have found that trying to keep the club on the target line for as long is possible was causing me pain. I think I tend to slide into and past my Lead Side almost subconsciously in an attempt to keep that club on the target line. That causes my hip flexor soreness because I slide past hip joint neutral on my post up.
I was also experiencing irritation in my right shoulder. I think this was coming from my attempt to get some additional power. Rotary Swing teaches how to get more power by using the right arm but I struggle with it. I also wonder if my attempt to release the club like Kim-Moss suggested or Trail Side technique caused me some shoulder pain. Both notions are complicated for me as I am Lead Sided.
Frankly, the additional power is just not worth it to me. Again, almost subconsciously when my right side gets too involved I loose all the good things I developed with the Lead Sid technique. My swing is quickly dominated by my right arm and shoulder. I can feel myself coming out of my posture and standing up and…
My interest in the Kim-Moss release the club technique was pursued in hopes of getting better consistency and accuracy. Again, when I introduce my right hand to do more than just supply a little extra speed, my timing is way off and I play “army” golf - left, right, left, right.
I am not saying that any of this is wrong just that I don’t have the athleticism to pull it off. So I am simplifying.
Per my Rotary Swing review, focusing on releasing the club face properly is giving me the consistency I am looking for. I have gone back to my left arm only and flat left wrist drills.
I have also got serious about working the ball intentionally with fade and draw per
. I am hoping that this will additionally help in being intentional about where my ball goes. This summer I have consistently hIt a fade on my longer irons and I typically have just hoped for the right amount of fade. On the range I have enjoyed working the ball in both directions with every club on occasion but I need to get it more consistent. Stay tuned.
Additionally, in my teaching, I have watched my students struggle a bit to square the club face with full shots. This
video has really helped them. It is helping me have the right thoughts too. When done right, I can aim for a result and then just focus on a proper release.
I have created a few new pages with my review findings. See
Now when I log into Rotary Swing it asks me if I want to switch to the GOAT Code. With that in the back of my mind I watched.
Ever since Chuck (founder of RW) broke his neck and left wrist he has struggled with lead side swing. Additionally, he has felt compelled to learn the Trail Side swing like Tiger. At some level the Lead Side Swing relies on being “ZEN” in the hoping everything works out and telling the arms and wrists to magically square club face. Tiger through all his surgeries had to create power WITHOUT relying on joints. He has reworked his swing to follow swing concepts that mirror throwing motion concepts.
I personally think this is a game changer because the transition for most players will be much faster and the concepts learned are immediately applicable. You first learn to putt. Then to chip. I love this. With C4, nothing really applies to golfing now until you have done 1000’s of reps. Many of those reps without a club.
I also think kids learn to swing naturally Trail Side. How cool would it be to mentor your child by helping them understand the GOAT Delivery Position. That’s it! At least until they mature and are able to better understand how to engage their core.
A couple of initial thoughts:
The GDP is independent of C4 or GOAT - lead side or trail side. It is the same.
I get the impression that the GOAT code is all about a method, “The correct feeling will always translate into the correct mechanics.” Because many, possibly too many of the steps are all about feeling.
When I try to get to GDP with my C4 swing, it helps.
Pre-swing spine sideways tilt is not necessary in C4. Just learn to do the tilt in-swing, the GDP way.
Tush-line is needed in both. For me this is my swing destroyer.
Much of my C4 success came from getting the control I desired by imposing my trail hand. For example when I did the flat lead wrist drill I got there consistently by using my trail wrist. At the time I felt guilty and kept trying to figure out how to do it lead hand only. So the GDP feels very familiar and refreshing that I don’t have to feel guilty about using my trail hand.
The GDP is a cheat code for C4.
Most of my golf experience has been sprinkled with an occaissional swing that feels amazing. Only, the ball usually goes too far right. Not a dead pull but too far off of my line to feel good about the result. Guess what? With the GDP and new grip, I am achieving that swing feel more frequently. I am very encouraged.
For me personally, the GOAT Code program on the RS site is very detailed. However, it is assumed that once you can hit a 40 yard wedge you can hit any club, including the driver. I also find it curious that the GOAT code is sold by telling stories about how he went to the homes of 2 golfers and spent a few days getting them to hit the ball 30-50 yards farther. Yet, the GOAT code steps are numerous and include challenging skill checks before allowing one to move on to the next step. So spend a few days or a few weeks maybe months? Something doesn’t add up.
I am mostly curious about how to append GDP to my C4 swing.
Setup is the same
Grips are different. GDP grip feels more natural for...everyone and facilitates hands in front of the ball more easily.
Ball position is different, but once he posts the missing videos on iron and driver...just how different will they be or is it just come down to ball flight. Meaning, in the training the focus is on low ball flight so it is played off of right toe. However, in a stance width of 2 inches, is the right toe more not too far off of C4 and the left cheek?
Flat left wrist .vs GDP, as I mentioned above, I found myself doing GDP in the C4 to get better control.
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