Meeting Notes - present Dennis / Randy / Kai

We are in search for/of a topic :

1st part of discussion : /Randy suggested - apply concepts of Disruption / Resilience to above topics and seek NS for insight/translation...

Disruptions / Resilience and ‘cross feeding in microbioms - ex. holobiont “:- he enlarged the discussion to “measuring circularity”..and the need to evolve this...

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Microbiome relationships mirror host evolution The more distantly related species are, the more distinct the composition of their cognate microbiomes, as reflected in the overlaid phylogeny of wasps and their microbiota.[1]

or example in gut microbiome -

Microbiome relationships mirror host evolution. The more distantly related species are, the more distinct the composition of their cognate microbiomes, as reflected in the overlaid phylogeny of wasps and their microbiota. Image credit: Andrew Brooks, Bordenstein Lab. doi:10.1371/journal.pbio.2002168.g001

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2nd part of discussion:

Linking to Circularity and Design for Sustainability and or Circularity - and or SD Modeling -

Discussion was oriented around thow to link NS / Circularity/ Modelling (Dynamic Systems Modelling) to Business Value Chain/Supply chain

In our discussion of how to address circularity in mobility or the value web - we quoted examples of ‘attempts to solve for some circular or sustainabilty issues via top bottom ‘symptomatic’ decisions - (ie. substitue styrofoam in your packaging even if this increases wheight and fuel cost and CO2 emissions, or rebound effect linked to ‘effectiveness’ in supply chain, when a shorter supply chain for an electronics good led to higher demand (better servicing since closer etc). or at business model level - where a textile garment made from recycled plastic - was so commercially successful that demand for it exceeded amount of recycled plastic available - and was produced form ‘virgin plastic’...

How can SE address these - or model for ‘circularity” Can we model this at SoS or System of Interest levels and or - how can we link any of the above topics to NS-Circularity-Modelling- and socio technical system modelling?

How to address Rebound effect ie. in supply chain or through Business Value chains?-

We are looking for a link to the Social Working group and or how to model either of the topic areas as a socio-technical systemCan we model for that ? where is the link to NS?

Can we model and SoS or a system of Interest -

How do we link this to NS - or Circularity / NS

We need either Terry or Paul present as modeling experts- and or both

Browse ‘rebound effect’ studies - a paper could take the form of a literature review

Dennis to convene a meeting for mid next week