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041224 | Chris Mackin

Hello and welcome to the Alteranative Exit.

Today we are joined by a luminary in the field of employee ownership, Christopher Mackin
He has had a distinguished with a career spanning over four decades in the field. He is the founder and president of Ownership Associates, a consulting firm based in Cambridge, Massachusetts, specializing in the development and support of employee-owned companies.
Christopher is also a Carey Fellow at the Rutgers University School of Management and Labor Relations, where he teaches courses on democratic capitalism and contributes to the Institutes for the Study of Employee Ownership and Profit Sharing and is also playing a active role in shaping the policies that govern employee ownership. I could go on and on!
Chris, welcome to the Alternative Exit
Interview Questions:
Previously you have talked about the long history of employee ownership in the US , tracing back to the early and mid-19th century
Political republic v an industrial republic

Trained as a social psychology back n 1984
Sensible ideas of school democracy, social fabirc in teh workplace
Critical thinking
Deliberate right and wrong
The dawn of industrialisation - manufacturing at scale
George McNeil >
Underlying questions - how do we work together
Jeffersonian equitable work
Capitalism and Democracy
Image of what we are aiming for, industrial republic
There will be conflicts
Quasi democratic environment and you lose
In your view, how does employee ownership impact organizational culture and employee engagement? Could you share examples from your consulting experience?
Influence allocation
Explores the effects of employee ownership on workplace dynamics, supported by real-world examples.
Firstly it is a legal. American Working Capital Transaction group
Disagreements and Influence allocation
Globally, what is the best model
ESOP model dominates the model in the US, share in the capital appreciation
How do they compete with organsiations
EOT - are making in roads. Smaller companies, it is expensive
Through Ownership Associates, you've consulted with numerous companies on transitioning to employee ownership. What are some common challenges these companies face, and how can they be effectively addressed?
Seeks practical insights into the obstacles organizations encounter during the transition and strategies to overcome them.
Your articyee Ownership: Four Meanings and Two Models" explores various interpretations of employee ownership. Could you summarize these meanings and models, and explain their day's corporate landscape?
Encourages Mackin to elaborate on the key concepts from his research and their relevance to modern businesses.
You've been involved in policy discussions advocating for employee ownership. What policy changes do you believe are necessary to promote broader adoption of employee ownership models?
Invites Mackin to discuss the role of public policy in facilitating employee ownership and suggest potential reforms.
Looking ahead, what trends do you foresee in the field of employee ownership, and how should organizations prepare to adapt to these developments?
Encourages a forward-looking perspective on the evolution of employee ownership and its implications for businesses.
Biggest challenge
100 above
Starting point, how we unlock the innovation engine.
Sharnig information about the company
2Recommendations
Futures committee > what else could we doing differently
2 annual meetings, budgets are debated and discussed
Preceeded by smaller meetings
Fast round
Fast round of questions. I ask you a 3 questions and you offer a quick response. Does that sound ok?
Who is the leader you most admire in EO? David Ellerman
What is your favourite resource on employee ownership? NCEO and ESOP
What would you say to an business owner sitting on the fence re: employee ownership.
Employment
lafayette
where is the risk capital going to come from Employment Equity Investment Act
Credit risk backed by the
that will last beyond

Thank you.

Thank you so much for your time and sharing your thoughts with us today.
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