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Outline

The space, what are these tools
Blending words and data
History and where they are trending
Notion comes out as wiki in 2015
Coda comes out as a new doc 2017
Demo sites
Fundamentals
What's similar
Collaboration and embedding other systems
Organization, blocks, pages (wiki) ... more Notion
Doc with spreadsheets ... more Coda
Community
What's similar - Crowdcast, meetups, gallery
Notion, in person meetups around the world, reddit (large).
Coda, open source doc gallery, community of builders.
Example Clients (and why they are gravitating)
Coda - Uber, Zapier. or gallery
Notion - MetaLab.
Using both - BCGDV, Webflow, Figma, Branch
The switch over ask... hmmm.
Notion, bring your entire company in...everything in one place, replace the tools.
Coda, you won't win everything the first time.

Notion vs. Coda Notes

Having a hard time copy and pasting data into cells. Keeps opening up one cell. Or from Coda, it's been crashing the entire app.
The DB relationship popup is weird when I add a company to a contact.
No gantt charts on the roadmap stinks. But looks like they are working on it?
Confused about inline tables and full page database tables.
It's a little harder to write, especially with bullet points and going back.
Cross linking between areas is easier.
Having a page as a row in a table is super helpful, and they are promoting that a lot in their templates.
Cleaner overall
No integrations (like to Jira) if my team wants to use other tools.
No need to think about organization, it can naturally evolve.
What if I want to share just a part of something with stakeholders? I can create a view, but they still have access to everything? Like the people's "folder" for employee sensitive info. Would it be private and explicitly share people on it.

Coda vs. Notion notes

Hopping back and forth into Coda docs and out is a pain in the ass to build this system.
And it's not obvious that you can have two docs open in different tabs (b/c it doesn't open a new tab but a tab in the same frame).
You click the name of the folder to get back upstream.
You can't have docs in a workspace, only in folders?
We don't have an ATS in-doc template.
Naming a doc vs. a section is an odd feeling.
No affordance on the content calendar to add a meeting / piece of content.
Lot easier to type in Coda
Delightful tables
To make a select list delightful, it's harder.
They bold the display column (which is a pattern I've been doing as well).
Attachments.
Having the ability to put notes about the person is so great. In Coda, you have to create a doc for each? I'd put them in their own folder, but there's only one level of folders.
Lot easier to select things
Select list is single option and obvious.
Lookups is single value, not the who row in the selection.
Graphs
Can show pipelines, burndowns, trends over time.
Hack for Notion through GSheets:
Buttons have more flexibility, but add row is most common, and it's standard in Notion
Search
Can't search tables unless detail view or hacky regex.
Can't search the content of all docs.
Journey
After building the platform, then I start moving in to connecting Intercom, Jira, etc.

Nagle
Culture
Support
Coda...Family and compassion
Notion...thoughtful
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