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Yerkegali (Russian, Kazakhstan)
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dive into how you understood got into in video, which is give me a brief understanding of you.
Okay, my name is yerkegali. It's pronounced. What is it? I'm from Kazakhstan. I'm 21 years old currently finishing my tipoma project in my University because I was just Technical University. And working in mfi company in a marketing position. So this is the reason I found about
Okay.
the individual because we needed some. service or instrument to create short videos for us to like automatically make a lot of videos for tiktok or Instagram rules.
Okay. Sorry. I didn't follow what industry you're in.
Um, I don't know what it's called in English. I guess it's mfi like micro financial institutions.
Okay. Okay. So in the finance domain, okay.
Okay microns. Yes Finance sector.
And you use in video predominantly for office purposes to make videos is what I'm understanding.
Yes, but I haven't really applied a lot of them because I just used one video by now. because other videos so if you
Okay.
remember the issues when you can change the tone of the voice, you can change the narrator's voice and Etc. Yes. So my last place was on that version.
Okay.
of the
And for how long have you been using in video AI?
um, I found out about the ingredients like when did you start making the Russian version?
you can say from
It was some February or January, but
yes. Yes, February March is when we open the Alpha version for you guys.
Yeah, so like I found out about the image away in the end of January in the beginning of February, but I found out that there was only the English voice.
Mm-hmm.
About the problem is our audience speaks post hasn't Russian and slightly no English here, and I was just trying correct make some video shortcuts in India by doing and if I went to delete the white track and use some other service to generate your waist strap for an idea in doing just come. Buttons is too. We just to audio and video tricks to create a new one then I Found your Discord server and just saw your message about like dudes where collecting some people for advertising from Russian language. So
Okay, okay.
Thank you.
Oh, all right. So I mean I just want to go over what your liking or not liking of the the V2 the basically the MultiLing will model that we have gone into beta now. So I just wanted to get an overview of what is the language fine. What is working for you? What is not working for you? Just give me some of the problems that you're facing.
Um, I can see much about the comparing of V1 and we too because I haven't been using it.
Yeah, that's fine. But I would understand from like the
but
Russian like you I'm assuming you're making a lot of videos in Kazakh and in Russian. So like are you facing any problems there or what is are there any issues and things like that?
Yes, in terms of V2. I can say some issues about for example. Let's start with the Russian language is hard because you have a lot of ending Soul divorce and different styles of penetration of the one world. And they like geometry different meanings. Just if you change the way you talk like the same word. Also the problem I face often. It was a problem with some pronunciation of the years. why you can say like 985 for example,
Okay.
you can say like well in English, it's like 90 85 or 1985 like this dress the two version of this world. But in Russian is five more than five or six versions for forever occasionally teaches. You should watch in spirit. This is what was inspired three. She did not watching disappear at home. And sometimes this in video was like confusing it this moments. But in this section you have to like use the engine which means the belonging of some historical event to this year. But this was just talking some words
hmm
words and then he was talking this year like Not belonging, but just here. so the meaning of the
Okay.
meaning of the text was I forgot this word in English. It was missed. Okay, like people don't get
Okay.
Sometimes there was some mistake, but I think you have fixed it when words at what moment become in some. Unreal language like it's speaking in Russian Russian and states start something something strange over there. But I think you have fixed it because I haven't faced it. It's a wasted reference.
Yeah, I think we fixed that. I think of two weeks ago. I think we were working on that but
Okay, there was also was a problem which about the voice Trek as Sometimes some um, sometimes familial voice is better than the male voice and I have I did have to change them. But it appears that for example if the video was created in my own voice and I changed to the female voice. some she was talking. Like I can hear the voice assistant. synthesized synthesized. like in English, there is no such a problem because the English voice tracks are very developed in like
Mm-hmm.
in the sphere of creating voice tracks, but in Russian, it's a problem because there's no such experience worldwide to create such voice and generators. and some so in the waiters versus I have here this that the voice is generated like it was it was worse than it was before I think.
okay.
But I don't know now because I have just created the video. I haven't watched it already. I haven't watched it already. It's
You want to watch it and then share a comments on it?
Okay, just 30 seconds. Okay, I got it. Like yeah, there's a voice is still seems some synthesized like we can
when you say
hear.
The interface what you mean by that? Like, could you break it for me?
Like I can hear some robotic moments in the US so it's does not feel
Okay.
natural. mmm, also, there is a moment that
Okay.
there is wet intonation like Let me just find something. Like well, it seems like women just through the invoice but I imagine someone without any experience of speech trying to present something and instead of some like good talking like Voice controlling. He just reached something from the East way be more be moping corporated six five one and Broad Street sweet like something like this. There is no some inspiration on or energy in The Voice. energy in So it can seem so I actually avoid strike is just reading without any. how to sell how to say without any some Oh. Moments on the world wake me just translated. For God's word.
I I kind of understand what you're saying it what your at least from what I'm understanding you have the
That's okay.
body
There is no emphasis in the voice in The Voice.
emphasis, okay.
Yeah, like all the text all the words feels monotonous. And I usually do exist like I compose
Oh.
a video in basically in three parts. Like the first Parts is when you start seeing oh like the beginning of the video. the second part is the main main part of the video and the last one is like finishing part and sometimes I need for this free Parts be spoken in different tones Like in the first tone. It's like oh, okay. Have you seen that like something questionable my questionable tone almost always for people to be more
hmm
interested in watches in what's going on on the second part. and in the second part you voice got to be not questionable, but some
not
like informational tone like the voice trying to teach you something and not ask you from this. And in the third part you can you need to some somehow combines a person or second and like not informational like the second part and not explanation of it in the first part but like um, have you how do you access the question then subscribe this channel like the questioning and then some code to action don't because using someone in the whole
Okay.
video. I think it's maybe not the right way to create a video.
understood
also, there was some issue when for example I don't know what's called like when you write the prompt and the video appears, right you can edit export and there is a copy out underneath with the button generate. What this what name of this step?
Let's let the magic box let you just put in a command and hit generate. It should do the job you.
Okay, let's talk about it moves. Oh like video seems so Aggie in that section. Like it.
Okay.
the video like it is source. So a 60 FPS and you can watch right away normal, but in the moment of editing this video like when it's just got out from the prompt. It seems like you press the button to play to firstly use a generated video and it seems like like 12 or 15 FPS like something like that. So what strike is good, but the video track is ready.
Okay, I understand. Okay, And anything else that's troubling you.
I don't know by now because like I haven't used it from like twenty of April like for the past 10 days, I've
Thank you.
Haven't seen any updates from them.
Okay.
so
Okay.
so all my feedback is from the 20th century from experience before the inches of April.
Like and you're seeing the the voices that the video you just made and you heard that is still sounding robotic and with no emotions. even in this recent video that you just made
Yes, I just made.
Okay, because I mean we worked on the
right
voices last week itself and we tried to make them less a robotic. But now that you're saying we'll have to go back and see what we can do.
Yeah, I just made this video. Well the second before you I have entered this video chat. Like I've created it while I was waiting for you here.
Okay, no problem. And any other troubles that you're facing so far or anything that you think is missing and we can like put it in for you.
Let me see. I think it's good.
Let's
I know.
Okay.
About editing like I often have support my yoga type on this video. Like I said before the company and I
Okay.
haven't found the place when I can do it because I've opened this you have some experiments so video editing tap. I think
Mm-hmm, the the timeline editor.
yes, I've tried to do it there, but I didn't find a way to do either. like I need to up download the video
Okay.
edit it in the other right? editing instruments
What are the editing instruments did you use?
uh other Premiere Pro or some free
Okay.
things just to end just to add the water type. Nothing more.
So you're familiar with using Premiere Pro?
Yes, I'm familiar with using a bit of
Okay.
everything like programming designing AAA Rising tools and Etc.
Got it. God got it. see, yeah, I mean so we've not introduced The Branding bit so honor tool right now, you still can't put the logo in the next version in V3 we have Scheduled to put The Branding elements in the video. So hopefully in a month from now or maybe two months at the max that will be out in you'll get it to use the logo as well. You may not have to go to Premiere. But yeah, I hear you out.
Oh, okay. Okay, and also I want to ask like there is a HC picks in months from the stock.
Istock so I stock is a is a premium
from right
stock footage providers. So we have some restrictions on that. So there are the stock footage providers is well, which we give unlimited usage. But for istock you get only 80 per month, depending on what plan you are on.
because I really don't see any reasons to use this istock because like it is only 18 a month and while you're creating a video which is 15 seconds or one minute long. You spend from 7 to 15 istock.
Is so what you can do is you can in the prompt or in the workflows, you can select or even write down don't use istock footage or use less eye
Yeah, the question is that.
stuff footage.
Is 0 in a reasonable reason to use this istock because I do not use them because some free stocks that are not included like in the pits like I don't have to pay for them. Like you have to turn off the istock, but they feel good and I'm not see any reason to include this istock like some parts of subscription like for me I would choose some. Point where is no istock footages, but instead of them like more minutes of AI generating. because I only use non-i stock images
So
because non stop images and videos because they totally fit everything. I need in the video. so individual trick
Understood. So the reason why I mean why we're giving I stock is so there are like so you're in the finance domain. So maybe there are a lot of free footages available and let the other stock providers have that in their library, but there are some domains maybe traveling or maybe a very particular thing about technology or health and things like that that only available in istock. So that is why we've been bundling that up in our plans, but we will look into it and see if we can have and I stop free plan and more you generation when it plants that is the point of this call to understand what you think of it. So I'll make I've made a note of it.
Okay. I saw also, I think that you're system of counting of AI working time is facing some issues because Even if I create a video which is 15 seconds long or even if I made the video of one means wrong. Right. It seems in the left toolbar. Like when you press the versions you can see the versions of this video
hmm
and it's always written like one am immunity means is used so I have
yes, so
never seen.
I mean, I think you've not read the FAQ section about how minutes are counted so minutes are counted to the nearest minute. So say if it's an under one minute video it will always be counted to one minute and say if it's a one minute 25 second video, for example, it will be considered to the nearest Minute which is comes to one minute again, but say for example you make a one minute 35 seconds video for that. So one minute 35 seconds is closer to two minutes. So it will get counted as two
Mm-hmm.
minutes. So so that's the we're giving that
Oh.
buffer and we're giving that a generation minute is that that is how we are counting this and this is how it is done across other AI tools as well. So this is what we've been following.
Okay, but what is considered as an AI means like is it the comparing of the video shots or is it more about the voice track generation?
So it's it's an amalgamation of everything put together to make that video like it goes right from writing the script to generating The Voice putting the videos together putting music together and giving you that entire packaged video. So that entire thing is considered as any am in it.
Because for me it's like firstly I enter the prompt and get the video with the voice track.
so I mean if you only change the
more often I change the voice like I have never changed the video track and I always only change the voice track.
voice as long as it doesn't add a drastic change in the duration of the video, your minutes will not be will remain the same government minutes will not be charged.
Okay. Got it.
So the idea, I mean the holistic thing is your edits are not charged. Your generation minutes are charged.
Let me just check if you second. women just check if you have fixed this issue about the like When I told the copy what to do it more like an energetic like it does not understand understand the word more.
Oh we are so it might not understand that just yet. At least for the Russian language for the English language. We I have made some changes to that already for Russian. I mean, I would look forward to hearing from you how the how the voice needs to be changed because I mean, I don't know people who speak Russian a lot. So I mean so I think you're connected with me on Discord, right?
Yes.
Ah, could you just probably send me a high or something? I'll probably send you some samples of what we'll create like more energetic more dramatic move on and things like that. I send you a couple of samples. And then your day if you can tell me what you think of it, then we'll slowly get that integrated in the tool. Does that work for you? I mean, I'll not send it to you today itself. Maybe sometime this week. I will send it to you.
Okay. I just texted you some. some Waters
Just send me a high on Discord. Oh, yeah. Yeah, this also will work. Like if you could give me a probably a sentence. That you are looking to translate. I mean you want this to be voice in a more energetic to know give me a sentence it to be voice in the morning narrative to know something like that. I can I can do that for you and then get let's get back and discuss. If that if that works for you.
should I do it right now or some
whenever I mean nothing nothing
winter?
urgent because I mean today I'll not be working on that. Like I'll be I'll be talking to a lot of users and I am in charge of the voices. So I mean maybe on tomorrow or the after is that working on them and send you some samples so you can take
Okay notice it.
some time. Cool, then I look forward to some of your the some of the lines and I'll get back to you as soon as possible.
but yeah, I've changed the video like but it's still. upload new music Yeah, it's again like there was. A female voice and after I asked to make it more energetic and I asked it in. Russian eat understood that the voice should be like more energy quite normally it was it answered me like It seems like the voice track is. Still unchanged but now it says that is that it is changed but it is change the voice from female to my own voice.
Okay. Okay. I mean I got your point I'll have this looked into this is a bug. And also since I haven't introduced kind of tones for Russian, maybe that is why this is always behaving that way.
But is there any testers for the Russian voice except for me because I haven't seen anyone.
I don't think there's nobody else honestly.
Okay. Because I've seen that other guy.
and I mean apart from apart from this call, which I will be bumping up your minutes. I'll also be giving you other rewards for helping us make this tool better with your feedback.
because I think you need more marketing because like as I know I was searching for that kind of services in Russian language because there is a like ocean of such services in English. right some
So the problem is we don't have a lot of exposure to the Russian market. So I mean you can say only from the last 15 days to a month. We've started exploring but we've not had much luck like with some you famous YouTubers who talk about tech and stuff like that. We haven't really found many such influences or YouTubers for that matter. So I mean if you could probably hook me up with some of them we can have conversations and figure out a marketing strategy with them as well.
Yeah, I can help you with that because first time.
Oh, yeah, let's just give me some links to these guys also and then I can talk to them. So a lot of them. So what we have found out also when we talk to them maybe because we are sending them messages in English. They are not responding to us.
Okay, what the problem is that there is not such a market of inferencer marketing in Russian segment. Like we are not listening for them as much as it is like in Western countries. Like there is no such a phenomena
understand
like some influencers. I'm talking about this like it's more about some. advertising in the some communities of people who are interested but not for the influencers. Like influencers influencing do not
Oh then can you probably?
work here.
Can you help me with those communities of something like that? I could probably have a look at them and see how I can probably Market if if that works for you.
Okay. The first one is like some Advertiser like do you know the Arbitrage?
No.
Like it's moment when you make with some push notifications some short videos when you upload the videos in YouTube tiktok to transfer the traffic from one source to another source.
Okay.
Like these people always in need of some generated AI ways to generate videos quickly. To attract people like a generated videos are very popular in like in YouTube shorts or tiktok videos. But I think they're just making in them by themselves. Like they're just creating the voiceover from the generated voice and in making the videos by themselves, but I think make founding such service like in video. We will be a great finding for them.
Got it.
to automate
Good. If you can get me some links to these communities or something whenever you get the chance over the next few days, just let me know. I mean, I'd love to explore these and then pass it on to my marketing team.
Okay.
Good.
Let me just notice to not forget.
so sure.
Okay. Yeah, see, is there something else which are you want to ask?
Anything else anything else you want to tell me? Otherwise, I mean we can call it and you can just give me your feedback as and when and I'll Pro by the end of today. I will bump up your account. So you should see the bumping generation minutes very end of today or maybe maximum tomorrow.
mmm again I also I mean, I don't know whether we fixed it or not. But I faced some problem where I cannot edit some videos which were created on time ago. For example, I have made a video on Monday and I remembered about it icon Wednesday on Tuesday or Thursday. And when I want to edit it to change some Voice or some video tracks. It always gives me giving me an error.
yeah, yeah, so I mean it was in the Sorry, I can hear myself. If your audio, okay, can you hear me?
Yes, I can hear.
So I was saying it was in the alpha state. So the software is breaking quite a lot. So now that we've gone to the beta stage from last Friday, it will be more stable and from Friday onwards the videos that you were created that you created. Well, you'll be able to go back to them and edit them.
Okay. because because I have got some like great videos over there like which I like very much but there is some small small details it needs to be changed, but I cannot do it because I
Okay. Yeah those videos.
would
You will not be able to change them because I mean we've broken the code at them. So you'll may have to create them. Sorry about that.
Okay, no problem. Oh, okay. Also like is there any some footages of like can they choose people on the stocks for instance our country like it is not very Western Country. Like everyone we have here is some manga or Asian works. So if I if I am making some advertising for for the welcome Market it is like will not convert my clients if If I some like if there is people with other nationalities in the footage, like I'm making videos for
M.
situations the family or situations on the road like for make to be to make people like feel the problem. So the people on the screen, so the people on the screen needs needs to represent the my target audience. And I face some problems when? the people on the video tracks are not raced or the nationality of them my target audience like some people who are living in a small town in Kazakhstan will not understand the video why not understand the problem of people gives these people on the screen is like Afra American or from or Chinese Asian like say they can
one understood
see that there's some people from the abroad
understood so yeah, I mean that is the problem that we have been facing as well because All a lot of these talk libraries mostly have people from the Western World in their footage very few. Asian footages is something that we have seen also. So going forward.
he
We're also going to be making generated videos. So we're working on on multiple models right now. So that probably say you're making a video for classic Spanish people who are slightly from an Asian race or a Mongolian race where you will be able to do that with the generative videos. So that will probably come out in a few months. We're working really hard on those
no.
models right now itself.
Okay. I feel like I forgot something very important. say don't know what
Is no problem. You can you can probably send me a message and discarded in I'll get back to you on that.
okay. Mmm, also, there was a moment of interpretations. Of that of the text prompt for example. Which talk about the management? like when people hear about the money stream The picture is a picture in the head like you I imaginate something like a lot of money like coming or some bank account with a huge money. But when you for example enter the prompt of money stream Or a stream of money in the in the prompt is a video of the the video is like the first video we will be some sync where is the water dropping from the sink and the second video is money. Like it is interpreted way as a Ministry. Anyway the stream and funny, right?
Okay.
I I face this problem a lot.
Yeah, yeah. So I think once we have more generative videos, it will solve the problem of all this much better.
Okay. yes, but the main problem for me is the intonations because like I have to like I have told before either three parts when the for instance if I make some informative video. I always need like the the last five or ten seconds to say. Hey, subscribe my Channel or like follow the links in the description, but it is being The same tone I do as it was the whole video while it was it has to be like a lot more. extra a lot more inspirational
Got it.
Now this is main problem by now for me.
Good God, let me see how we can work on that. I will probably send you some samples through the week. You sent me the kind of text that you want to hear these voices in also, and I will do that.
Is there any way to create for example for now like three different voice track for one video but to keep one voice?
Yeah.
Because for example, um, I may I can make why one video track and compose it from free voice tricks underneath list this video track like some question in the beginning and explanatory on info.
Yes. Yes you
It's going to return in the in the middle
you can do that.
Yeah, but will The Voice match themselves like from this for this three Voice tricks?
No, so that is the issue at least for the regional languages that we are. We're trying to fix at the moment. So say for example, you have a one minute with you and say for the first third when 10 seconds you want one voice the next 30 seconds, you want another voice and the remaining second. That's what 40 56 the remaining 20 seconds. You want another voice so we can do that but the same voice changing into different tonalities is live not fixed that yet at least for the regional languages. So we're working hard on those things yet. So you can probably have the first 10 seconds to be a male voice then a female voice and then again a male voice you can do that right now, but sometimes it may it may feel very natural sometimes when like, I feel like having a conversation but sometimes it might feel weird. especially for like non English languages
Okay, also. Let me just write them down. Is there any some labels or ID codes for every voice or are they every Trend generated like for example? I want creative easier. and I've very much like the voice of the voice track and overall tone of this voice but it's a problem with I cannot replicate it on the other videos like even if vaporize the same prompt for the other videos The Voice will be different but that voice was perfect and I can I somehow like tell the Kapil was like I want to voice with this icicle for it to
So we've not.
fully copies characteristics of that voice
So we don't have that just yet and we haven't introduced these voice IDs and stuff like that, but you can like and I agree earlier this was happening like you created you enter the prompt and you got a voice that you like, but the next time you tried you didn't get that voice. So we fix that part so you should always get that same voice with whatever you type in the magic box. So even in the prompt box We fixed that so you shouldn't have that problem going forward. But if you do, please share the link to that video and we'll dig into that and we'll see how we can get that voice back for you.
it also is up about this moment when you can create like You can create a video from prompt like with with this blue button generate visa. And also there is a tap like beneaths of them with like overflows and plugins.
Yeah.
And yeah, and when I am like choosing some settings for that moment, there is a setting for setting up like use my own voice use a female voice and the second one is like any voice and there is a list of voice like clear American Voice voice with a California accent voice with a new car accident. Was a problem is will it be changed like sorted by the languages? Because like I do not need any of them in Russian language because like
Yeah, so there will be there will be
there will be an
a Russian voice as well. I think so. I mean we've worked on that last week may have not gotten pushed it should you should see that getting added this week around.
Okay, and those moment it's about the script. Right when I've been making the First videos I've seen like how your cap I would. At that, this was a my script for your script why you divide this one for the blocks? And also it adds like this this bracket and minus Gap 3.37 seconds and the closing up to make some intervals. and then I was creating the prompts for this exact exact type of prompt because I need exactly these words to be said, but when I enter this prompt to the from Edison career It's it ends up by real realizing my text on this video Even though. I use the exact same. Exact same template of this editing of the prompt like your copay with us. Where this is a problem.
So yeah, this is been happening. I mean we're working on fixing that I mean the but the AI is being a little stubborn. We're trying to fix it.
Because I can't change this moment. Like when when the video is already created like I can edit the video and change the script there, but I cannot wait. With my script be unchanged in the process of creating the Visa like this is a problem.
Got it. We were working on this actively will try and fix this as soon as we can.
I think that's all I have in mind by now.
No problem. I mean if anything else, I mean I'm we connected on Discord so you can just drop me a text. If something else troubling you or we can get on a call on Discord as well.
Okay.
recorded Thank you so much here Kiefer time.
Thanks. Thank you for calling.
appreciate talking
What's nice to meet you in person like?
YouTube
in
Yes face-to-face.
Yeah.
Okay. Yeah. Anyways, let's be in touch and you send me those lines and I'll send you samples and things and as soon as some of these problems that you mentioned get fixed. I'll drop your game and you can have a look at it. And I will bump up your account maybe later today or maybe maximum tomorrow, so you should see the change.
Okay on to and about the bumping up we would be only available until the subscription finishes or we would.
Yeah, yeah, so it will not roll over. This minutes will not rule over. So if you want me to bump it up later, I can do that as well.
Yeah, let's do it later because I do not remember when my subscription ends for this month's.
Okay, so you let me know whenever you want me to do it. I'll do that then. Just give me like a days notice and I will have that done.
Okay.
Okay. Thank you. Erici. Have a nice day.
Thanks. You too.
Bye.
Bye.
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