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Mark Williams
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Kirkston.
Hey Mark, how are you doing?
Okay.
I'm doing very well today. Yes. How are you?
I'm doing good.
Jolly good.
It's a pleasure meeting.
Yeah, pleasure meeting you as well. Thanks very much indeed for the invite
Perfect.
so,
So Mark, I'll actually give you the bit of a context of What we will be discussing. We will be immediately discussing about. So primarily we would like to understand what you do and how video is being a peripheral. Like you are using a video tool. So we are guessing that video is somewhere the other connected to your everyday workflow. Or somehow it is important to you. And we would like to understand that. And then we would actually, like, to understand the background like, if you, if you are into like, if you are making video for long period of time, you know, all the other tools that you are using etc, etc, sort of those sort of things. And then we would actually like, to understand your experience with in video, like how it has been. And if there are any specific things that you want to share with us and let us know about, you know, things that you feel will make this tool better.
I understand. Yes, yes. Well, okay.
Perfect. So let's let's start with your background and a little bit about Yeah. yourself.
All right, I've been a management consultant for about 30 years. So I do training, I do coaching, I do consultancy, I go into various businesses and help them with their business. And when I run training programs, of course, we need to have a diverse way of putting information across. So what I like to use are short videos that's maybe introduce a subject that maybe will give us an idea of some of the new ideas that are coming out now. So that rather than just going through a book or just talking about it, they can see and I'm like an introduction to a particular aspect of leadership for example, or management, or overcoming a challenge in leadership. So what I try to do is put maybe a two between two and four minute video together which introduces the subject for discussion. And I came across some video about almost about two and a half, maybe three years ago and I took out a three-year contractor with you guys because it really comes across very, very well. And and I've very recently also decided to go with the AI video as well in video. Which I've got, you know, a few notes on as well for us if you wanted to discuss that one too. So I'm, I'm a big fan of NVIDIA.
Perfect. Yeah.
I use it a lot and because it's very short videos. I've done some longer ones for maybe introduction to a program. So there's a six months program I'm running. So, I'll put an in video together and I'll record that I'll then send it to the people who've been on the program, so it's a nice introduction for them. So that when we we come program itself, we get the ground running. And we're able to, you know, that they know, the kind of things that we're covering and I can make it very, very specific for them. So, what I'll do, I'll get a script.
Yeah. Yeah.
I'll write a script maybe with a bit of help from AI. I'll personalize it. I'll put a voice to it and that will be over the voiceover, then, which I'll download for my in video stuff. So it's it's used in various ways anything up to 18 minutes for the video. I don't do any selling. Because my it's not like I'm putting a sales message out there. It's for information and it's for
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use within the training programs. So I might say, we're going to discuss a program on say, as a subject on neuroscience for leadership. So I'll maybe get AI what your AI in video to give me an idea. I'll change the script to match what isn't and I'll say right? I want a three minute video on Neuroscience for leaders. And it gives me the opportunity to have something, which I can then adjust, and just tweak on the the script and and the the video pictures as well. And it's, it helps me to put the subject across you know, understandable way. And then we can use that as the basis for the further discussions afterwards. So what I'm doing is building up a whole bank of Two to five minutes, long videos, which I can then use for my training programs for coaching one-to-one, for sending out to clients and for running on training programs as well. I found it very, very useful.
That's very curious and very interesting what you are doing? I think so, Mark, if you don't mind me asking where like when you started the journey, I believe you have started the journey within video like you said, three years back or sometimes like that. So you have been using our gen2 product. Like the old one, the one that has templates and all those things and now, and you have been using making videos in that particular tool apart from apart, from in video, have you used any other tool, like anything else that you have been using or before in video you used to use?
No, it wasn't. One of the things that I did very much of, you know, producing videos because it was very expensive to buy their software, and it wasn't until I saw yours.
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And saw that, it was, you know, very a very affordable, and the quality was very good. I think I used, I might have used Google's free video production, but it was, it was very clunky and it
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didn't do the job for me. I think what yours has done and it's it's set me off on not just doing videos from like, for my training, but also maybe some YouTube videos as well, which has allowed me then, to put my name out into into the YouTube world. I don't do that very often. I don't do very much of it. I need to do more of it and I think in video will certainly help with that. so, no, I didn't try any others and I settled on in video because I'll be
Maintenance.
honest with you, I can't see any other software being any better than yours because it's it's giving me everything that I need.
Mmm.
And sometimes I've just as an aside sometimes I find, you know, I might be halfway through a project and then it will say something like rendering and or or it will say don't be a message that comes up and I'll have a You know, a circle going round and it will not go on from there. It will just it just stops and just pauses and it doesn't go any further. So what I have to do is come out of it and then go back into, you know, and it's it happens probably once or twice during the production of a video when I'm developing a video and
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why it happens. It's I really don't know why it happens but that does sometimes happen. But I think the quality I'm able to upload my own videos to it. Of course, upload my own Slides, which I like. And there is one that I'm using at. The moment are one, let me just have a look at my notes and see which one it is.
Of course, of course.
Oh yeah I think it's called Murph m u r. F dot ai.
Mm-hmm.
If you come across that one that one. Yeah, that's that's one I sometimes use because it's allows me to put slides on but I'm also using in video for I just downloading slides and so what I will sometimes do is put a voiceover across a slideshow and and that seems to work too. I actually prefer you know, the pictures and the videos. But sometimes I'll do that with the slideshow and and yes I've forgotten about using Murph m u r. F dot ai.
Hmm.
That that's quite well as well.
That's actually great to know that
But I do tend
that in video has helped you some way because we have like we are spending our youth building this. So it's always it's always nice to hear that but on the other side I think I think Kirk take two more minutes and ask you another thing.
Yeah.
How you find in video, like you, when you found in video, like, for the first time, like, was it via, like, someone actually told you about in video, or you found some like advertisement or, or it was a general organic discovery like
I think I was doing a search for it and I think it came, it may well have been a Google search. It's it's some time ago now. So actually remember I know it's an
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important aspect of your business to find out where people are coming from but I can't I don't think I received an email or anything like that. I think I was doing a search for it and I found yours and gave. It gave it a trial and it just suited my needs at the time. So it's came across really well and I still use it. You know, weekly sometimes daily
Make sense makes sense. Mark cook. Please good.
Oh Maxwell from what I'm trying to understand you use videos more sort of like pre-reads for your the consultations and the people do are going to be training. So from this I just wanted to understand. I mean there's always the the concept of pre-reads is there like where you'll probably send some notes and things like that to the person you're meeting or the group that you're going to interact with. I just wanted to understand And how did videos, how did you get stumble on the idea to create videos to send them?
Yeah, I think, because I've been following, you know, lots of people on on YouTube and on, it's all the influences that are out there and they send me emails on what you can do. And what best best way to interact with people, I've been playing downloading YouTube videos, a lot for my programs. If I had say an introduction to leadership, I would download a YouTube video and I would play the YouTube video to to the group. And so I've been using video for a long time, but they're very generic. They have to be and I thought, How can I make this more personal? Because sometimes I have to say, You know, this is very generic video, it's not about your industry. So I needed something a bit more personal on that, and I thought If someone could do a video, then why can't I do it? And so, it's it just occurred to me to produce my own videos and then I thought, Well, I can't really afford the voiceover work and producing. I haven't got the time to do that, to write all the scripts, etc. So I, when I came across yours, I think it was doing lockdown when I came across yours. I decided that I'll give Go and yeah, by far the best thing I did because I find that video just enhances the the message. And particularly when you give people an opportunity to comment on it and say What was the most important thing you found there? And and of course, with the voiceovers and I sometimes use 11 laps. I've become across that one, gentlemen, 11 labs, so I use
Yep.
Yeah.
Sometimes I find that they're they're voiceover is a really very good and so I can write my own and make it very personal. So if I'm introducing a program to particular company, instead of having a generic YouTube video on the screen I can then say Welcome to the program for Virgin Atlantic, you know, and I have a bank of really good voiceovers for those so it's something which I will continue to do and you know, looking forward to making them maybe possible a bit more interactive too.
Could you also mentioned that you have a YouTube channel? Where you upload some of the video. So could are any of the videos that you made on in video AI on that tool on on that channel by any chance?
I do put them on, I'm not on the channel. I actually put them onto YouTube and then I make it personal and private for the companies that I work with. So I'll send it out to say 30 people, and I'll say, Go to this chat, this YouTube link and you'll be able to see them.
Okay.
What I am going to do is I don't know, I know where you're coming from Kirks. But most of the ones that I do now off personally, for companies, and I'm working with so that they can download the YouTube link, and they can see the video itself. So, but you can go on to my in video
You could.
channel. You can see that the ones that I've produced for companies there, the majority of the ones on that I do on in video, are for various companies that I work with.
Regarded.
Makes sense, makes sense.
And another question that I had is like, you, you mentioned a lot of the tools that you're using like 11 Labs muff in video. Just curious, could you probably name a few more that you've probably used in the recent past?
Yes, I use for for writing text and for voiceovers. I use text writer. I think it's human pal or human talk. I think Paul ponders and
Yeah.
pop on us software. I use I'm I also use for basically, those are the only ones I use for the videos. I also use AI. pro.org for chat. Watch other ones. I've got here. Gt gpt power.co. I use that one.
Okay.
Chat. Dot Openai.com and envato elements. As well. So
Good.
There's no, I haven't. Wanted to go to any other software for video production because yours is the only one that I use. Essentially for that along with Murph, depending on what I really want to do and because I found, you know, if I find something that I really like and enjoy, then I stick to it but what I'm starting to do is to experiment with Chat GPT for 3.5 and I've really enjoyed just starting to use your AI in video too and that's I've got some notes on that as well, if you wanted to hear that. So it's I'm a bit of a fan of in video. Let me put it that way. I like what you do.
Perfect. So let's Let's actually talk about your in video, AI experience. Let's let's like Help us understand how the journey have been so far the kind of stuff you have made.
Yeah. yeah, probably done about Five or six AI in videos and just short ones you know, two three minutes and have made a couple of points on it. And one of the things that I do, I do love, love it by the way, because I did one on the neuroscience of leadership and I put in the instructions that I wanted some information on three specific parts of the brain on this and it delivered perfectly, you know, it was really, really good at the right level. I like the idea that You can do it, you know, inspiring or professional. I like that. I really do. I like the fact that you can listen to it and you can go back in and change the That the script you can put your own personal stuff in there, just a couple of things. Can I choose the voice or choose the music? Because sometimes I put, I want a British voice, a deep British, male voice. And there's one that you've got there, That sounds like David Attenborough, which is, It's wonderful. And I want to choose that one again, you know, for other videos but sometimes it doesn't give me that particular video. Is there a way of choosing a particular voice and particular music? Can I do I need to put that into the AI chat before I get the video produced.
Good. So you can you can put it in the prompt directly use a deep male English voice. I think you will get Dividendra's voice like the voice that is familiar like similar to David Attundura, You will get that.
Yeah, right.
That is one way, that is one way you can do it all. So there is something called workflows If you have seen, like there is a box that come in the middle of the center of the screen. i If you click Click into the YouTube version of that, like there is an option, which actually helps you create the YouTube video there,
It will basically help you detail out the details of the problem that you want. The kind of small integrities that
correct.
want to produce.
Right? I've just switched to your software and I've got, you know, try these as YouTube Explainer YouTube Short,
Okay.
recent events video and and so which
Yeah.
one will I choose?
If you just, if you just click on YouTube, Explainer,
Yes.
you see these settings section, you
All right.
You can actually, you can actually decide a male voice over, you know, a
Oh, got it.
clear American ways, something like that. So you can use a British voice. Old, husky, British voice.
Yes.
That is that is always going to give you that. Something that is very close to David Attenborough's voice. And and you can use that, that's one way. But the other ways of course you can just write that use device like use of British meal, British has key voice or device it will that will also do the same job.
That will do the same job, right? I haven't clicked on that one before. That's actually very, very useful. So for creating that prompt that's wonderful. And so I've seen that one and so you and YouTube shorts. Does that do the same kind of thing? Yes. Yes I can see that now.
Yes, but it will, it will create smaller videos. It will create videos that you see as a YouTube shots.
Yes, yes and that's another one. I was going to ask you about as well. Gentleman was about the subtitles because sometimes I want to put the subtitles on there. Am I able to put subtitles on in a YouTube explainer?
Correct. So, what you can do is you can go to the edit section. Like once your video is already
Yes.
generated. If you go to the Edit section, you get a, You get a command box, there we call it a Magic box, you can just write there something like Enable subtitle
Enable subtitles. Great great. That's that's wonderful.
So that it will. It will it will enable these
Yeah.
subtitle. Yes, but right now you don't have you don't have those fancy themes. It will come as basic subtitle, but it is there.
Yes, great. Okay. And am I able to put More headings in because sometimes you know, when I put a video together, when I get the script, I'm just going back into one now. And here we go. One that I produced a couple of weeks ago and it's just giving me, right? I'm just going to edit. Sorry about this gentleman and I just added the script here and it comes into chapters which I think is great. I can obviously change the title of
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the the chapter, which comes on to the screen, which is great. But what I want to do sometimes, if the let's say some of the words that the In the rates are says I actually want those words to come up as well. Am I able to add those at the time? When he or she says in
Okay, so, one thing what you can do is you have tried to edit these videos, right? So if you go inside the edit, you will see something called it script.
Yes, I'm on that now.
Correct. So inside the Edit script on the left
Yeah.
side of it, you will see, there are two icons that you can see, right? Like, you can see a text, I can and media, I can write
Media, I could.
Yes.
Correct. So by clicking on the take so any any part of these any any script like so you will not be able to control the time. Exactly. Just now we are working on that. That is a release that will come very soon. But right now what you can do is you can pick up one particular like one particular text box and click on the text on. On that particular left side of that particular box. You you can enable any text boxes there, so the text boxes with Run, Run for that entire script span that
Right.
that resides in that
Yeah, I understand I
That.
I've just had a look at it and it says Yeah, look lower third, you can type here, you can type the what you
Correct. Correct.
what you want to in there.
Correct.
That's perfect. That's what that's what I was looking for really was. So that's excellent. That's excellent.
Okay.
Just just one other thing judgment on. This is sometimes I've noticed when the AI has produced the video that there is a duplication of some of the the visuals. So on one of the big video for example, it all about leadership. So it's sharing a slide of leadership and that it went on to another slide and then it came back to that one slide. And in fact, it on one occasion it duplicated. The same slide three times. So I have to go in and get that changed as well. Is there an Is there a protocol that you use or could be used that says, You know, do not repeat the same slide?
Of course you can, of course you can write that in your prompt.
Right.
Also also, if by chance, sometimes that happens because it's again, ai is right now in a, This is a very unknown entry for the entire world, right? Sometimes, I do does things. That has no, no clear definition, why it is doing it by chance.
Yeah.
If that something like that comes in, you can specify that in that magic box of us and you can just say that replace footages or or delete that particular part. You can do that. Like if it is, if it is continuously
Great.
using like if it is repeating the chapters, you can just go and say Okay, Delete Chapter 3, it will delete that chapter
Great. Yes, I've seen that, that's brilliant and Yes. And I've saw from what you sent me to there that I can decide how many, or what percentage should be istock videos or pictures. So I can do lots of videos and I don't use up my 40. I stock allowance
Good.
in in one go, so I can change that as well. That's great. Can you just tell me where that magic box is?
Just click on the Edit Edit button and you will see like where you see the Edit Media and Edit screen just below that. There is a box which says Give Me a
there'll be a text in box that
Command.
Is it edit script or edit media?
Journal right below that.
No.
it extend put box.
Yes, it says, give me a comment.
Just go back. I think.
Give me a comment to edit the video. Yes.
Correct. Correct, correct.
Yes.
Correct.
so, I can go into that and I can put whatever I want like
Yeah, you just type in simple English and try and figure out and it will make those changes for you.
Ah, so I can go in at one particular scene, great. So I can say and make this scene half as long, right? Got it.
Yes, you can.
Yeah, great.
Yes, you can.
Great. Because it gives me a lot more control over it then. And just one, one more on this gentleman. If I do change the video, am I? I might, let's say I'm changing some of the words, some of the pictures and so forth. Does it always look at that as me using up my minutes and my picture. Library every single time I change it. So if I've got to say
Okay? So till Mark till December, the edit is free because aid is still in beta so it will December. It is completely free. But post that It will charge, but it will charge. Only that. So if you for say, if you have, just let me give you an example that you have a chapter which is one and a half minute long.
Yes.
Now you wrote you say that make it one minute long. Right. So it will only charge one minute of premium generation. It is not going to charge five minutes of the total video. It is just going to charge that much. That is why it is broken into
that's,
chapter, so that it can, you can you can do targeted changes and it only consumes that much of minutes.
Great. That's great. What I really do like about it. Judgment is the ability to change anything in there. You know what? What got like a going to median, you change, excuse me, you change out the pictures. You, I can import my, that's an good question. Actually, you need to ask you, can I import a particular picture from? Yeah.
Yes, of course.
Or can. I can upload it? I can great. I can upload maybe a slide. I want at one particular point. I can I can then elongate or make make it longer on how long it stays on that slide as well. Can't I
Okay. So for that, that is not something that you can do just now, you can,
Okay.
you can upload, you can replace multiple media to one slide that and that will more or less give you a certain time span. But for that, you actually have to export the entire timeline, export this entire project to the timeline, which we are working on.
Right.
And once the timeline is up and about an active for you guys, you will be able to do any change that you require, like it will become like like you have used in Videos Studio. So it will become like in videos
Yes.
Studio Timeline.
Perfect.
Then you can do anything everything that you want. But for now, till the time that timeline is out there, you cannot specifically control timings, but of course, you can, you know, manipulate the system by replacing two, medias with one image.
Good point.
Then it will it will remain for for a longer period of time. That's how you can do it fun.
That's what? That's what I will do. I'll put a slide up there and I will put it maybe over three. What what were three pictures I will put the one slide and I'll just duplicate it. Yeah, that's a good way of doing it. Thank you for that.
Good, good.
Now you give me some really good tips on that.
Okay, well it's it's our pleasure, a mark like we get very happy when when we get a user like you who actually has this questions? Because we get to understand that. Yes. The user is using the tool at its best. Right? Like so we we are very very we are
Yes.
if you, if you have anything in your mind that you think if you would have built this tool, you have made it like something that you think will help you, you know, you know, everyday process something that you miss in this tool we have we are like we are always keen to know that.
Okay. Is it possible to put a logo in the top right hand corner like you do on in video? Are you able to do that with AI? Video.
Correct. You will be able to again the brand entire brand thing is going to come the way.
Great.
You can do it in our old interview. You can. Also you will be also be able to add images or specific colors or things like that, but that's not their out right now.
No, that's fine. You know I know that you're this is in beta gentlemen so you can't you're not gonna get it perfect first time and it's great.
Okay.
That you I reckon your 90%. There are really do. I mean, I really enjoy it. I asked it to produce as I said that one on neuroscience for leaders and I could not have written it better myself and which chat GP do Use which AI to use is a 3.5 or is it four?
Oh, so basically we have a system the depending upon the problem that you give it automatically decides which one is best to use.
Right, right. So
So basically if you if you are, if you are for say your your prompt is towards more towards creative side, it will decide and go towards 3.5. But if you actually ask something very specifically, like a scientific topic or a recent news or things like that, it will go towards for
Right, right. Okay. And in the future, are you looking to help us out with the prompts because at the moments? You know, I'll be typing out my prompts saying, I want these subjects to be discussed in the the short video Three four minute video. That's the ones I do at the moment are I know in one of the text writer apps that I use, then it does you put in what you want and then it creates the prompt for you. Are you thinking about developing those prompt help us for the future?
Okay. So the first version of that prompt helper is what you just saw. Right. Our workflows. That's the first version of it. We are actually thinking about it. but it's, of course, not very, very clear in our mind also because
No.
everyone has a very different use case. Everyone writes it in a very different way. Everyone wants a very different from, so we are actually trying to do that but that might come out as a workflow but not a complete tool.
No, I'm
If you, if you understand what what I'm saying, because these, these are
just,
such kind of stuff that it's very difficult. to build, you know, because because the the use cases are so vast
Yes, I can. I can understand that. In fact, there's one which I've just literally in the last week download and I forgotten about it actually which I'll tell you about is AI video suite. So that's that's gonna give me the prompts that I need. There's AI video so we pro and there's also content, right? So I've actually got that software which will allow me to put the prompts in and what I will do. I'll copy and paste the prompt and I'll put it into your AI prompter. Because I remember typing up about 150 words and with the prompt, it came up with about 750. So that was, that was really useful. So I'll use that software and put it into yours and that that would work really, really well. No, I'm really pleased with the with
Makes sense.
the initial start that I've had with AI video and linking that in. Now, I think with your in video that's going to be a really great help. I think both softwares are going to help me to produce videos from my clients that are, you know, just terrific. And I think what might start doing is marketing myself as a video producer, for for companies and because you can probably tell I'm quite quite old. I'm going into semi retirements next year and I'm going to end my time doing more on video production and I want to then send it out and put it onto a proper YouTube platform and maybe get people to to contribute towards that.
Hmm. Of course, of course.
But yeah.
with you in your new journey. I we would we would actually like to see you as one of those top youtubers.
Right. Yes, I love that.
Who in your own needs? Yeah.
So what are your plans gentlemen? What are your plans for in video? Anything on the horizon for in video or for AI in video? Or what's the next stage in the development of the software?
See, we want to, we want to complete. So basically we In video, AI is a giant product, right? It's it's it looks very tiny like there are only so many buttons that you can click but inside it. The entire mechanism is extremely big. So the first like primarily what we are working on is to build like maximize the outcome that we can get out of that. So, you know, eventually you can expect things like new workflows coming in you being able to maybe someday you'll be able to create ads in in this platform. Like you just type out maybe a problem saying that okay I say Perfume and mica ahead for me and it will automatically make a ad for you. Things like that, right?
Yeah, right.
So those sort of stuff and also making like what we are doing, do it the best, right? Like what we are doing right now, making these YouTube content faceless videos, things like that and take it to a different level. Like where Where like, you know, it's you, as you say, it's 90% there. It's the 10% is still left and this is the most difficult 10%.
Yeah.
Because every person there is the toughest to achieve that is that is essentially where the entire focuses and also in future Progressively. You know, you have seen like in the older tool, also in video studio, so we have integrated AI. So, make that better, make the entire This entire function is very unstable because there are a lot of things that we do not know about AI, right? So bringing stability. There is also a huge focus. So those are the things and we are we are we we have our internal, you know, research team. Where we are continuously doing, fundamental research to, you know, make these sort of things better. Like the entire, the way, the video scripts are written, the kind of language is used, etc, etc. You know, now eventually bringing in dialects, maybe like so, because people from us, talking a different English than UK. It's not only accent, it's the also, the choice of Words, bringing those things, so that it can become more personal. So things like that. Like we, we keep, we are keep. We are, we are, you know, keep ourselves. We are keeping ourselves busy in figuring out what is next in AI itself also. So that we can actually lead some part there.
Great. That sounds wonderful. I mean, I'm a fan already. I'll be even bigger fan when you bring those kind of things out. It's great.
Of course, that's that what we are
It's only.
saying?
Yeah, it's it's certainly helping my business, you know, I'm an independent consultant. So it's helping me to create opportunities there. I think I I'm not using it to most of the its ability so I'm going to be experimenting when I have time because I'm very, very busy at the moment with work. And I want to make sure that, you know, I then start putting myself out in terms of the, the way that I start getting business coming in next year because I'll be all starting to retire. I'm still want to put some business out that way and I think what you've got is and is an absolutely brilliant product. I want to continue to use it. And what I do like about it is you know the choice of music. You've got the, the choice of Videos really excellent and just allows me to run my business in a way that I want to. It gives me the opportunities to be a variety out there and a diverse way of communicating with my clients and particularly on training programs. It offers a different perspective on what I'm training and what I'm consulting with and so I'm hooked I really am, it's just great.
It's great to hear Mark. Mark, one last thing I actually missed, where are you from?
England.
England, perfect.
Yeah.
But you you don't have that that much of a accent though. Like your English is more international.
I've worked all over the world. So I've been to work and lived in the
Yeah.
States and I've worked in Europe, I've been to India Deli. Mumbai, you know, called Qatar and China, South Africa. So it's probably from all over the place. That's I have my accent and so people
Yeah.
do awesome.
know. Actually I we we talked to a lot of people's and a lot of a lot of folks, actually. And very, very it's very rare to hear such an international English, you know, like which has like it's very difficult to actually, you know, understand where you are from because for a timing. I was thinking you from Australia
Right.
then a few words, actually made me feel like No Australians. Don't use this words, The way you speak is Sage. Gentleman is very, very American. So we're just speculating in my mind where you might be from. But anyways, it's it's very it's it's the conversation was insightful and I am really thankful for that and also like I think I think it was a pleasure talking to you mark
What it's actually well, it's an absolute pleasure working with you folks, as well. If there's, if there's you know something you want to bounce around any ideas that you think. I wonder what people would think about this. I'd be perfectly willing to have another discussion. And you say what we're thinking about this? Would you use it? As I say? I'm not using it for selling products, so, you know, the advertising would be great, but maybe not for myself. But other things that you might be coming on, I'd be more than wanting to have a discussion like this and say, Yeah, that would that would sound great. And if you could do this as well or do this instead, that would be even better. So, you know, put me on your list, I'd be very happy to
of course, of course, of course, Mark
Great. It's a pleasure working with you judgment and keep up the good work because it's helping my business to to succeed. And when I'm able to produce a video for the client at, which looks like a very professional video, done with a professional voice over and all the istock footage as well, and then I can personalize it to them. I can upload their own videos, then it makes a really big impression on them for me and my business. So, I want to thank you for all the
but,
hard work. You're put into it Jenna. Thank you.
Of course of course it was a pleasure Mark thank you have a great day.
And you thank you very much indeed. And for the rest of the day there, Thanks, see you again. Bye now.
Take Mark.
And you, bye.
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